Lawrence Wilkerson (col. ret. us army)

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An interview with Lawrence B. Wilkerson conducted April 22, 2011 by George Gavrilis for the Columbia Center for Oral History, Rule of Law Oral History Project.

Since his retirement from the United States Army, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson has been outspoken about his disappointment with the decision-making and planning of the Iraq War by the Bush administration, the treatment of Iraq prisoners of war (POWs), and the detention of innocent men at Guantánamo Bay. Highlights of this interview include events of Col. Wilkerson’s life and career in the Army, and discussions of the Vietnam War, United States foreign policy, the U.S. military and national security, enhanced interrogation techniques, his testimony before the 9/11 commission, and the United Nations Convention Against Torture.

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Lawrence B. Wilkerson (born June 15, 1945) is a retired United States Army Colonel and former chief of staff to United States Secretary of State Colin Powell.

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still looking for his original talk and/or transcript of his college campus talk 

lost my copy (want for reference)

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the transcript should have the following TEXT as part of the full talk

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     2075

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     * Blueprint or Scramble *

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     transcript excerpt from a talk given by LAWRENCE WILKERSON

     Royal Dutch Shell has done a look.

     They have some of the best strategists that I've run into

     (and I was a strategist in the military) in a long time,

     and their look says the future is a blueprint,

     or the future is a scramble.

     And they talk about how to 2075, how dwindling water resources,

     dwindling petroleum resources, gas and oil,

     and so forth are going to cause world leaders to have

     to either cooperate and coordinate — "blueprint" — or fight each other

     mercilessly for half a century or longer.

     Royal Dutch Shell believes it's probably going to be the latter.

     They call that "scramble".

     We arrive at essentially the same point in 2075,

     with a basket of energy sources,

     some of which we probably don't even know now due to technological

     innovation, with different countries in the world,

     with different power relationships in the world;

     we arrive pretty much at the same place,

     whether it's the blueprint scenario or the scramble scenario.

     There's just under the scramble scenario a lot of blood,

     a lot of treasure, and a lot of dead bodies.

     Frankly, Royal Dutch Shell strategists,

     they won't tell you this, but I believe it's fair to say that

     they think the political will and the leadership won't be here,

     and so we're going to do the scramble and not the blueprint.

     If you're an optimist, you can go for the blueprint.

     LAWRENCE WILKERSON, FMR. STATE DEPT. CHIEF OF STAFF TO COLIN POWELL:

     Let me express my appreciation for all of you coming out tonight.

     It's late, and we're on a college campus,

     and this is really rare to get this many people out.

     ([ It shall be a combination of a blueprint and a scramble, ... ])

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